The Siri conjecture and Catholic truth

The Siri conjecture and Catholic truth

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The Khoat business may be making a little more sense now that a few other shoes have dropped.  Those on Trad forums are commenting that the videos issuing from the Catholic Identity Conference (CIC) two weekends ago are creating new interest in the plausibility of the Siri theory advanced for the past 35 years by Texan Gary Giuffre. The CIC was held for the fourth year in a row to unify Traditionalists (an impossibility), in the midst of the Francis controversy over pachamama and other heresies. I suspect the enthusiasm being generated for this foolishness is mainly among the younger generation who have no personal knowledge of what really went on in the 1970s, 1980s. But whatever was discussed at this conference or decided by it, the underlying reason it was held was to begin to rally Traditionalists in support of a papal restoration, the true reason behind Khoat’s exposure as a shyster.

So maybe we need to look at the Khoat situation from the standpoint of the attempts to “de-pope” Francis. The Siri theory has been encumbered by Khoat and his antics since the 1980s. Those backing Giuffre (Hutton Gibson and son Mel) eventually jettisoned him for failure to prove the case despite hundreds of thousands spent funding his efforts over a 15-year period. Khoat split with Giuffre for a new manager before the Gibsons cut Giuffre loose, muddying the water over the years with his papal restoration campaign. So In the end, he needed to go as well. But he also needed to go for another reason. The Gibsons and others already had their doubts about Khoat and they so informed Giuffre. Giuffre also had been warned by the Gibsons about other “priests” he recruited to say Mass at St. Jude’s Shrine in Stafford, Texas. An excerpt below from Hutton Gibson’s The War is Now, (no. 64, p. 7-8) sums up the situation.

“Gary is a great priest-finder. He tracks them down and brings them to St. Jude’s Shrine, so that Catholics in the area need never do without the traditional Mass. So he has maintained such jewels as Hector (the collector) Bolduc, Mario Blanco [ordered out of the Sacramento, Calif. diocese in 1973; later accused of alleged sexual misconduct with young boys-Ed.] and Vincent (novus ordo) Le Moine, all up to his strict standards. You may have read about our trials with Le Moine in The Enemy Is Still Here!, pages 342 to 353, in which he is called ‘Father X.’” Gibson further relates that these priests remained in their positions even despite numerous complaints to Giuffre regarding their behavior. (This is a great case in point, regarding only one of many Trad operations. Why should it surprise anyone that they would wind up with only NO flotsam as priest material?! Another great reason to keep the faith at home.)

But Giuffre managed to recover from the sound and well merited public trouncing delivered by his funders, and this recovery was not surprising. Giuffre was marketing a commodity Traditionalist organizers desperately needed, and they patiently waited for the right time to use it for their own purposes. They knew the dam would eventually break where Khoat was concerned (and possibly even facilitated the break?), and that this would free them up so they could move forward. Papal restoration could then be entirely their game. Others would be freed to join the cause without Khoat’s embarrassing baggage. And this speculation is based on similar dynamics at work in past Traditionalist splits.

Some believed Khoat was the pope in exile or perhaps a cardinal. (Khoat stated he and others worldwide had been appointed cardinals.) Others did not buy Khoat’s cardinal story while believing in the existence of a Siri successor — somewhere. Khoat was a major player in obtaining “confirmation” that Siri was elected in 1958, but only after flipping his initial story in 1988 — that Siri denied he was elected three times — to a new version in 1989. This was relayed to Jim Condit, alleging that that Siri later told Khoat he was elected pope in 1958. This turnaround happened not long after Siri’s death. To the best of my knowledge, Khoat’s is the only (firsthand) testimony available on this topic, (although it appears that one other person has also changed his story to now report Siri was elected). Yet after what has been revealed regarding Khoat, who could possibly trust anything he says, now or then?! And that being set aside, where is the documentation either of these statements were ever made to Khoat?

The tantalizing details of Siri’s “papacy” are being released piece by piece in interviews with Giuffre on the CIC website. But the details of this story are nothing new; it has changed very little since 1989 when I viewed it as a slideshow. Only those promoting it and the method of delivery has changed. It is new and exciting only to the younger set who don’t realize the implications of this tale and its dubious background. And much of the information on that background has yet to be revealed.

The question begs to be answered — how would Trads benefit from embracing the Siri theory? Well it could be the universal cure all for their nagging ills. With Siri’s successor identified and secured, they might successfully challenge and unseat Francis. They could claim to restore the Church to Her former state of existence. But most importantly, they could rerun the Western Schism scenario and claim the pope in exile and his successor had reigned all along, secretly, guaranteeing jurisdiction for all Trad clerics. It is a problem they have struggled with from the beginning and never successfully resolved. Jurisdiction has been a thorn in their side since the 1980s, when various lay people pointed out Traditionalists did not and could not possess it, neither from Christ Himself nor some other (hidden?) source. And certain validity, while they will not even discuss it as a possibility, also has been lacking from the beginning. The “Siri thesis,” as Giuffre calls it, is the one solution that would tie up every loose end and legitimize their existence. There is just one problem: it’s not a thesis, and IT’S NOT CATHOLIC.

To be a Catholic, one must think and act like a Catholic. The dictates of Catholic thought and belief are set out by the Popes, decisions of the Holy See, the Ecumenical Councils, Canon Law and the unanimous opinion of scholastic theologians. When one sets out to prove a case, especially something as important as who is the lawful successor of the Roman Pontiff, it is a theological necessity to demonstrate the veracity of the proofs presented in the form prescribed by the Church, according to the most reliable sources available. Before embarking on such a daunting task, one must first make absolutely certain that all preliminary investigation has been duly conducted. If one is proposing that a man be considered as the possessor or potential possessor of a clerical office of any kind, it must first be proven that man is beyond any doubt a baptized Catholic who has not in any way been suspected of or excommunicated for heresy, apostasy or schism. Baptism is proven by church records, but Canon Law determines if someone has abandoned the Catholic faith.

Let us pretend we just heard a rumor Siri was elected pope in 1958. Our first impulse should not be to dive into the middle of the story, but to ask the question, “Who is this Siri?” and proceed from there. With only a little research on the Internet, it is easy to see that Siri was a man who became a cardinal under Pope Pius XII, served in his capacity as cardinal until his death in 1989, celebrated the Novus Ordo Missae, participated in the elections of John 23, Paul 6, John Paul I and John Paul 2 and otherwise endorsed and accepted everything that was the V2 church. Now, if one is a true Catholic who rejects the Novus Ordo as just another non-Catholic sect, s/he should know that Catholics who participate in non-Catholic services and functions are no longer considered members of the Church, especially if they are high-ranking prelates and even if they are not. The hierarchy, however, is held accountable to a higher degree because they are presumed to know better. This sin, resulting in ipso facto excommunication (automatic, with no need of a declaration from a superior), is called communicatio in sacris. It is incurred by anyone assisting at Novus Ordo (or Traditionalist) services in any way.

Had Siri truly been elected with the intent to preserve the Church as She existed under Pope Pius XII, he would have made this fact known. He would not have addressed John 23 as Holy Father, continued his activities as a Novus Ordo cardinal, or participated in subsequent elections of false popes. He would at the very least have resigned as cardinal and retired to some Italian hamlet or left the country. This is only common sense. Was he kept a prisoner and not allowed to function? Shades of the crazy Paul 6 in chains confabulation that circulated in the 1970s! No, the devil made him do it alright, and no one can prove otherwise. Given Siri’s behavior following the election of John 23, could he possibly have been considered a Catholic? There is no way he could have received absolution, since all those who defected from the Church in accepting John 23 automatically resigned their offices and lost all jurisdiction to absolve from censures and forgive sins. Oh, and by the way; only a true pope can absolve from sins involving heresy, apostasy and schism, which Siri committed in accepting the Novus Ordo church. So was Siri even a candidate for consideration as the successor to Pope Pius XII? Not hardly.

Because Siri’s fitness to be considered a papal candidate was never considered, we have the “Siri thesis.” And those pretending to reject the Novus Ordo and all it stands for are actually willing to accept this man — and possibly some trumped up successor — as a true pope! They trash Giuffre’s funders for collaborating with a Novus Ordo publication (Inside the Vatican) to expose the Siri theory as groundless, but think nothing of absolving Siri from all guilt in actively collaborating with the church in Rome. Anything to validate themselves, no matter how flimsy the evidence might be. They believe Giuffre when he trots out his learned “thesis,” not even knowing or understanding the obligation on Giuffre’s part to faithfully fact check his own work.  But then what Giuffre has presented is not really a thesis at all. A thesis is defined in Catholic terms by Rev. A. C. Cotter, S.J. (The ABC of Scholastic Philosophy) as a statement devoid of any ambiguity, obscurity or superfluity, worded with the utmost care. Proofs must be presented and the meaning of the thesis as a whole laid down. The work Giuffre calls a thesis, rather than being free of the flaws just described, is riddled with them. This is not an idle statement, but has been documented over the years by myself and others. Visit the site to read this article: (

In fact, Giuffre’s ramblings do not even qualify as an hypothesis. Bernard Wuellner, S.J., in his Summary of Scholastic Principles, states that: “An hypothesis must be probable (not in conflict with other truths and not leading to consequences against the facts), useful (as guiding and suggesting further research and experiment) and capable of being further tested” (no. 261, p. 268). Giuffre’s entire presentation on Siri is shot through with factual errors and flies in the face of all the papal documents laying down the procedures for papal elections, as well as the canons regarding ecclesiastical elections. Rather than facilitate further research, it handicaps the researcher, who is forced to wade through a sea of might haves and maybes to get to the bottom of what Giuffre is really trying to say. At best, Giuffre’s observations and conclusions qualify as a conjecture, “An inference formed without proof or sufficient evidence” (Merriam-Webster). Pope Pius XII condemned the use of conjectural opinions in Humani Generis:

“17. Hence to neglect, or to reject, or to devalue so many and such great resources which have been conceived, expressed and perfected so often by the age-old work of men endowed with no common talent and holiness, working under the vigilant supervision of the holy magisterium and with the light and leadership of the Holy Ghost in order to state the truths of the faith ever more accurately, to do this so that these things may be replaced by conjectural notions and by some formless and unstable tenets of a new philosophy… is supreme imprudence and something that would make dogma itself a reed shaken by the wind. The contempt for terms and notions habitually used by scholastic theologians leads of itself to the weakening of what they call speculative theology, a discipline which these men consider devoid of true certitude because it is based on theological reasoning…. If such conjectural opinions are directly or indirectly opposed to the doctrine revealed by God, then the demand that they be recognized can in no way be admitted.”

Scholastic theology has been demeaned by Traditionalists for decades, an error proscribed by Pope St. Pius X in his condemnation of modernism. There is no reason to believe that now, all of a sudden, it will be esteemed and used as the proper method to evaluate the truth. Likewise Canon Law, consistently misrepresented, misconstrued and misinterpreted by Traditionalists since the 1970s. Pope Pius XII’s infallible constitution on papal election, Vacantis Apostolicae Sedis, is not difficult to follow; the actions of anyone contravening his constitution by usurping papal jurisdiction or violating papal or Church law are declared null and void. The Phantom Church in Rome explains in detail how many of these laws were violated. The book also outlines St. Robert Bellarmine’s teaching on what to do in the case of a doubtful pope. Although Bellarmine has been quoted many times in support of various Traditional propositions, this teaching of his is never cited.

Both Pope St. Pius X and Pope Pius XII taught in their papal election laws that if there was any lay interference whatsoever in the election, it was null and void. If Giuffre has proven anything, he has proven there was interference. Ergo, the entire election was null and void. Could we say there was doubt regarding who was elected pope? That is an understatement. Yes there certainly was doubt, meaning any men issuing as supposed popes from that conclave were no popes at all. The legitimacy of the Roman Pontiff is a dogmatic fact, which cannot be denied because it is so closely connected to the dogma of unbroken succession to the papacy. This fact must be certainly established and when there is positive doubt regarding a papal election, this cannot happen. Serious, positive doubt has been documented regarding Roncalli’s election as well as Siri’s purported election. These very serious doubts, in and of themselves, are sufficient to consider both men out of the running; nothing else needs to be proven. This we have from popes, councils and a Doctor of the Church. But Gary Giuffre and his suspense-laden tale of intrigue and skullduggery is so much more appealing! Obedience to the Roman Pontiffs and the rule of law is so old hat, so boring. Not to mention necessary for the salvation of souls.

And so we leave this as a record, knowing that sooner or later this misguided attempt to recreate the Church will come unglued like all the others. It reminds me of the statue described in the book of Daniel: “And as the toes of the feet were part of iron and part of clay, the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly broken. And whereas thou sawest the iron mixt with miry clay, they shall be mingled indeed together with the seed of man, but they shall not stick fast one to another, as iron cannot be mixed with clay. But in the days of those kingdoms, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed…and it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and. Itself shall stand forever.” (Dan. Ch. 2, vs. 42-44). Here, of course Daniel speaks of the Catholic Church, which can never be destroyed, not by the likes of the Siri crowd or any other false sect. Iron and clay, the ideologies of different sectarian parties struggling for control, do not mix.

These Traditionalist sects could not accept the teaching of the continual magisterium of the past and if they elect yet another false pope, they will not be able to accept his rule over them either.  Christ will destroy all with the spirit of His mouth and the brightness of His coming (2 Thess. 2:9), be it during a visitation of His justice or the Second Coming. Lift up your heads… for the time is at hand.


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2019 Blog

A blessed New Year to all

Jan. 1, 2019

We praise Thee and bless Thee dear Jesus, because by Thy coming and death on the Cross, Thou hast accomplished our redemption. How can we possibly repay Thee for the gift to us on ChristMass of Thyself? By praying and watching with Thee and refusing to be duped by the false christs and prophets now roaming the world, seeking whom they may devour. Time marches on, to eventually culminate in the coming grand finale to all we have experienced here on earth since we lost the visible Church.  There are signposts along the way, and we must keep track of them. Several have been brought to my attention recently that I need to share.

  1. The darkening of the sun

In Matthew 24:21 “For there shall be then great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be….29: And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be moved.” Recent articles on the Internet describe the intent of scientists to actually darken the sun in order to lessen the effects of global warming, a global warming another Internet article indicates these same self-glorifying scientists have also created themselves (

Notice Our Lord says, “The sun shall be darkened…” He doesn’t say the sun shall grow dark or become dark. The way this is put suggests something external actually shall be done to darken the sun.  Rev. Leo Haydock says this darkness of the sun refers to Jesus Christ, Light of the World, a light that will no longer be allowed to shine. The moon, he says, is the Church, which ceases to give Her light (teaching of Christ) and “will appear as involved in darkness.” The stars falling from heaven are interpreted elsewhere in Holy Scripture as bishops apostatizing from the faith, but Rev. Haydock says they will simply cease to shine.  Like the Church, they cannot give light they no longer possess. Rev. E. S. Berry interprets the darkening of the sun as the weakening of Catholic faith. It seems that the spiritual sense must first precede the literal, which has happened. The neo-Modernists have both darkened the sun that is the Church by the plot hatched to destroy Her and by their science have worked to also achieve the physical reality. The spiritual interpretation of Scripture is foremost. But it does not preclude the actual physical fulfillment of the prophecy as well. Both can occur, the physical mirroring the spiritual reality.

  1. The sounding of trumpets

People from around the world have reported they are hearing the sound of trumpets and other strange, unearthly sounds, beginning in 2008. The sounds heard in Canada resemble faraway church bells. Those in Germany and other parts of Europe sound like the brass section of a mighty orchestra tuning up, as do those in Hawaii. Sounds heard in Slovakia and Japan are more fearsome, resembling the roar of a deadly predator stalking its prey. Apoc. 14:2: “And I heard a voice from heaven, as the noise of many waters, and as the voice of great thunder; and the voice which I heard, was as the voice of harpers, harping on their harps.” Some of the noises featured on videos could be described as the noise of many waters, the sounds of thunder and the music of harps. Signs were seen in the sky as described in Holy Scripture by the prophet Elias (the “little foot,” cloud 1 Kings 18:41). Carmelite writers interpret the small cloud as a figure of the Virgin Mary, and some believe that foot is the very one that will crush the head of Satan in the end times. Elias’ successor Elisha was shown an army of angels with fiery chariots, to protect him from his enemies, (2 Kings 6: 16-17).

Following the destruction of the Jewish temple in 70 A.D., the Jewish historians Josephus Flavius and Tacitus described a vision they had seen in A.D. 75,  several years after the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem (70 A.D.) and a year or two following the Roman massacre of Jews at the Judaean fortress Masada. These Jews had fled to Masada following the Temple destruction and died there in 73 or 74 A.D. This vision was similar to that seen by Elisha, but minus the angels. The historians report armed battalions and chariots were seen racing through the clouds. Some also reported the vision was accompanied by a minor earthquake.

There is also this verse from Isaias: “And it shall come to pass, that in that day the Lord will strike from the channel of the river even to the torrent of Egypt, and you shall be gathered together one by one, O ye children of Israel. Isaias 27:13: And it shall come to pass, that in that day a noise shall be made with a great trumpet, and they that were lost, shall come from the land of the Assyrians, and they that were outcasts in the land of Egypt, and they shall adore the Lord in the holy mount in Jerusalem. Likewise the first pope, St. Peter, told those witnessing Pentecost (Acts 2: 14-21): “This is that which was spoken of by the prophet Joel: And it shall come to pass, in the last days, saith the Lord, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. 

“And upon my servants indeed, and upon my handmaids will I pour out in those days of my spirit, and they shall prophesy. And I will shew wonders in the heaven above, and signs on the earth beneath: blood and fire, and vapour of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and manifest day of the Lord come. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord, shall be saved.” Many have interpreted the signs they see and hear as warnings from heaven that God is greatly displeased with those on earth. Here also is yet another prediction that the sun will grow dark.

  1. Earthquakes in Apocalypse

These trumpet sounds could coincide with the sounding of the trumpet in Apoc. 11:15. St. John the Evangelist speaks five separate times of earthquakes; three of them are great. The first reference occurs in Apoc. 6:12, where a great earthquake appears to inaugurate the chastisement. The second great earthquake occurs when the seven angels receive their trumpets. At this time, another angel casts a censor on earth filled with the prayers of the saints. The third and fourth mention of an earthquake occurs in chapter 11, verses 13 and 19. In verse 13 a “great” earthquake kills 7,000 and in verse 19 an earthquake accompanies an occurrence that could refer to the triumph of the Church.

The fifth earthquake mentioned can be found in Apoc. 16:18. There is an intermediate vision followed by the emptying of the seventh bowl. The intermediate vision describes the battle of Armageddon (which could have both a literal AND a spiritual meaning) but seems to relate to Chapter 19 and the defeat of the nations with their head, Antichrist. Apocalypse 16:16-21 provides us with a perfect description of the devastating results of an earthquake which is widespread and measures 10 or more on the Richter scale; also the phenomena preceding it.

Earthquakes in Apocalypse can be said to refer to all manner of upheavals in nature, the fall of governments, wars, persecutions, the eventual violent death of evil emperors/leaders etc. Because the Apocalypse is intended to be taken in a spiritual sense, the earthquakes are not interpreted literally by some commentators. Still, perhaps the great earthquakes, at least, are truly to be taken for earthquakes. Rev. Berry seems to interpret at least some of them in this manner.

Coverage of the 7.0 Alaska earthquake Nov. 30, 2018 was eclipsed by the death of former Pres. George H.W. Bush; broadcast media paid little attention and by the time Bush’s funeral finally took place it was old news. But according to National Geographic’s official site, a worldwide earthquake that no one felt — because it was mainly confined to the oceans — occurred three weeks prior to the 7.0 quake, on the morning of Nov. 11, 2018. The waves caused by this quake “didn’t just zip by; they rang for more than 20 minutes. And yet, it seems, no human felt them.” It was a “slow” earthquake scientists believe, of about 5.0 magnitude (  But perhaps it was a harbinger of the Alaska quake, the strongest in recent history. Alaska’s most devastating quake, a whopping 9.2, occurred on March 27, Good Friday, in 1964. It was no coincidence it happened during the middle of Vatican 2.

  1. Paris is burning

This was foretold by Our Lady at La Salette in 1846: “At the first blow of His thundering sword, the mountains and all nature will tremble in terror, for the disorders and crimes of men have pierced the vault of the heavens. Paris will burn and Marseilles will be engulfed. Several cities will be shaken down and swallowed up by earthquakes. People will believe that all is lost. Nothing will be seen but murder, nothing will be heard but the clash of arms and blasphemy.”

St. John Bosco also predicted: “In the second visit the great Prostitute of Babylon, which makes decent people sigh and call it the Brothel of Europe, will be left without a leader and will be a victim of disorder. “Paris! Paris! Instead of arming yourself in the name of the Lord, you fortify yourself with Houses of Immorality. They will be destroyed by you yourself. Your idol, The Pantheon, will be burnt to ashes in order that this may come true: ‘violence uttereth lies against me.’ Your enemies will reduce you to want, to hunger, to fear, and will make you the abomination of the nations. Ah, woe to you, if you do not recognize the hand that strikes you! I want to punish immorality, the despising of and the contempt for My law, says the Lord. …

Marie Mattel of Tilly (d. 1899) She saw in a vision great darkness, accompanying thunder and the destruction of nearly all of Paris through fire as well as the destruction of Marseilles and other cities. (Prophets and Our Times, Gerald Culleton).

What are we to make of these prophetic indicators? It is true that they are happening with increasing frequency and seem to be sent as pointed reminders of the times in which we live. Is the final act of this terrifying performance we have been witnessing drawing any closer? Perhaps, but no one can be certain. Traditionalists and those in other non-Catholic sects seem to dismiss these signs as merely “preparatory visions,” not pertaining to the times in which we live. They refuse to believe we live in the times of Antichrist, but no one has dared challenge Pope Pius IX’s teaching that without the pope the Church cannot exist.

This being the case, Traditionalism as well as the church in Rome are both phantoms; the papacy and the Mass could scarcely be lost today when they don’t even exist. So how will Antichrist fulfill Scripture prophecy when he comes, and how can he be Antichrist if he is unable to fulfill them? In the end, will these people reject Holy Scripture as the Modernists before them? And this simply because it does not meet their expectations of the Abomination of Desolation, which Pope Paul IV infallibly taught would be exactly what it was and is?


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